Mochabot log - CommonJS IRC channel: #commonjs on irc.freenode.net

2011-05-17:

[11:15] <akashiraffee> Anyone got a ready to "require" password hash (sha1 or MD5) they can recommend?
[11:16] <ondras> http://code.google.com/p/v8cgi/wiki/API_Hash
[11:16] <ondras> there is one in v8cgi
[11:17] <ondras> but it is supposed to work atop commonjs binary/f buffer
[11:17] <ondras> http://code.google.com/p/v8cgi/source/browse/trunk/lib/hash.js
[11:17] <ondras> this is the source
[11:18] <akashiraffee> Awesome! Thanks much.
[11:20] <akashiraffee> Ack -- it requires "binary", which I guess means something from the v8 binary. I need to use it with couchDB -- maybe I can hack around that part...
[11:25] <akashiraffee> Oh yay, that is not what "binary" means there. :)
[11:25] <ondras> binary is one of the commonjs binary proposals
[11:26] <ondras> there are several of them; v8cgi implements the binary/f -- http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/Binary/F
[11:29] <akashiraffee> Got it. This should work fine.
[21:16] <ttrenka> Wes, around?
[21:16] <Wes> ttrenka: for a few minutes, yes
[21:17] <ttrenka> ok, cool. Sorry I haven't been sitting in this room, and my sincere apologies if you were taking what I was trying to say as an insult
[21:18] <ttrenka> by no means was I trying to imply that you or anyone else hasn't put in a great effortr
[21:18] <ttrenka> effort even
[21:18] <Wes> ttrenka: Nope, you have to try much harder than that to insult me. :)
[21:19] <ttrenka> oh, I'm capable =)
[21:19] <ttrenka> ask any of my coworkers at SitePen =)
[21:19] <Wes> But I do like to hammer home the point that some of us *DO* really both care about and work on these issues
[21:19] <ttrenka> some, yeah
[21:20] <ttrenka> you're gonna be getting a lot more feedback though, I think, in the next year or so
[21:20] <Wes> My primary point of frustration is the (flat out wrong) meme that gets repeated too often, that Modules/1.1.1 is unsuitable for the browser and/or that eager dependency evaluation is somehow necessary for browser-side work
[21:20] <Wes> ttrenka: have you read modules/2.0 d8?
[21:20] <ttrenka> no, I haven't. Link?
[21:20] <ttrenka> though I don't think that's the point of contention, really
[21:21] <ttrenka> *getting* those modules on a consistent basis I think is the point of contention
[21:21] <Wes> ttrenka: http://www.page.ca/~wes/CommonJS/modules-2.0-draft8/commonjs%20modules%202.0-8.pdf -- it is a proper super-set of Modules/1.1.1 (i.e. every /1.1.1 module can be trivially converted to /2.0 without semantic change, and it can interoperate in the same environment as /1.1.1)
[21:22] <ttrenka> there's a CommonJS logo?
[21:22] <Wes> ttrenka: http://www.page.ca/~wes/BravoJS/ is an implementation which is a client-side implementation of Modules/2.0d8
[21:22] <Wes> ttrenka: Yes, developed about 18 months ago by a graphic artist whose husband is on the list. I forget who now though.
[21:23] <ttrenka> nice!
[21:23] <Wes> It hasn't seen enough use, IMO,
[21:23] <Wes> Wait, here is the "right" BravoJS link: http://code.google.com/p/bravojs/
[21:23] <ttrenka> me too =)
[21:24] <ttrenka> is this draft secret?
[21:24] <Wes> no, I posted it several months ago
[21:24] <Wes> It was secret until draft 7
[21:25] <Wes> It is, however, not a spec, just "what Wes thinks should be in the spec" :)
[21:25] <ttrenka> understood
[21:26] <ttrenka> do you mind if I hit you tomorrow about this?
[21:26] <ttrenka> mostly because I want to head off more noise on the CommonJS list
[21:26] <ttrenka> you have no idea (or maybe you do) what that was like in October =)
[21:30] <Wes> ttrenka: Dude, I was making 30% of the noise in October :D
[21:30] <Wes> But yeah, hit me up any time
[21:32] <ttrenka> Wes: you were but it was lucid =)
[21:33] <Wes> heh
[21:34] <ttrenka> I'm in the Central time zone (Mpls/St. Paul), and my day is ending at this point
[21:34] <Wes> Mine ended 71 minutes ago
[21:34] <Wes> I guess I should go home, lol
[21:34] <ttrenka> ouch ok =)
[21:34] <ttrenka> tomorrow then

 

 

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