[7:26]* Dantman debates putting a paypal donate on the wiki and setting up a meter that compares server cost to donations [12:11]<Wes-> Dantman: There is no need for a donations ink on the iwki [12:12]<Wes-> Dantman: We want to a standards body, not a club [12:12]<Wes-> Dantman: What are the server costs, and who is paying them? [12:13]<Wes-> zumbrunn: re ping :) [12:13]<Wes-> Dantman: Sandboxes - I know a lot [13:33]<zumbrunn> Wes-: re pong :-) [13:35]<Wes-> zumbrunn: the chat logs on chat.commonjs.org - is that your server? [13:35]<zumbrunn> yes [13:35]<Wes-> 1) is the mirror bandwidth hurting? 2) any way you can add HTTP Last-Modified headers so the mirroring can be faster? [13:35]<zumbrunn> 1) no, no problem for me [13:36]<zumbrunn> 2) yeah, I saw you mention that before [13:37]<Wes-> I was mentionign 2 in the context of the wiki, but same applies. Right now, it takes about 15 minutes to mirror the whole site, and obviously that's only going to get worse as time goes on. Bandwidth isn't a problem here, either, but the links are inconsistent during the mirror operation. [13:37]<zumbrunn> in the case of the chat logs, you only want the new pages anyway [13:37]<zumbrunn> well, scratch that [13:38]<zumbrunn> not really the case actually [13:38]<zumbrunn> I'll look at it [13:40]<zumbrunn> strictly speaking, the pages change every day [13:40]<zumbrunn> because of the additional log link on the right [13:41]<Wes-> "pages change every day" - ah, yes, I suppose they would [13:41]<zumbrunn> (from the perspective of your crawler) [13:41]<Wes-> That's one of the fun differencees between an engine with some brains and a flat-file server :) [13:41]<zumbrunn> :-) [13:44]<Wes-> So, I guess we can leave the status quo as-is, if you ever want to filter my mirroring software out of your stats, my user agent is "mirror/wes@page.ca" [13:44]<zumbrunn> ok