Mochabot log - CommonJS IRC channel: #commonjs on irc.freenode.net

2010-07-08:

[0:52] <Wes-> Anybody in here got ops and can kline that idiot?
[0:52] <Wes-> dantman: that's a good idea
[3:05] <zumbrunn> Dantman: the old IP is the same as the new IP? how does that make sense?
[3:09] <zumbrunn> anyway, dns changes have been made as you requested
[4:09] <Dantman> It is?
[4:10] <Dantman> Sorry zumbrunn I screwed up twice
[4:11] <Dantman> zumbrunn, The IP is 173.203.96.122, my clipboard screwed up that time... And the CNAMES should be kyou.danielfriesen.net, not .name
[4:16] <zumbrunn> ok, that sounds better
[4:18] <zumbrunn> Dantman: ok, done
[4:28] <zumbrunn> all sites seem to work fine for me now
[4:28] <zumbrunn> Dantman: I get this warning at the top of the wiki pages:
[4:29] <zumbrunn> Warning: Parameter 1 to Language::getMagic() expected to be a reference, value given in /web/commonjs.org/wiki/includes/StubObject.php on line 58
[4:29] <Dantman> Yeah... StringFunctions looks like it's messed up...
[4:29] <Dantman> The last server probably just didn't have error reporting turned on
[4:30] <zumbrunn> ok, just wanted to make sure we are both seeing the same thing
[4:30] <Dantman> StringFunctions in the REL1_15 branch is messed up like that, as well as the one in trunk... In trunk StringFunctions became part of ParserFunctions, however the ParserFunctions in the REL1_15 branch doesn't have StringFunctions capabilities, and the trunk version of ParserFunctions doesn't work on 1.15
[4:31] <Dantman> ^_^ In other words... StringFunctions is screwed till an official 1.16 release
[5:02] <Dantman> Ahhhh.... well that's a realization
[5:03] <Dantman> I just realized now that hicups on the wiki on the new server I ran into were actually fault of my high speed, poor reliability internet connection... not issues with the server
[6:48] <Dantman> :/ Well this is fun... Java's old Sockets have a method of creating a Socket to a remote ipaddr and also specifying what local ip to use when connecting... but when using the SocketChannel interface, there is no way to specify what local ipaddr to use, and on top of that when you create a normal socket getChannel returns null.
[13:12] <Wes-> zumbrunn: You around, Chris?
[16:12] <zumbrunn> Wes-: sorry, I've been around, actually
[16:13] <zumbrunn> just not paying attention, apparently
[16:13] <Wes--> zumbrunn: Was wondering if it might be a good idea to make commonjs.org, wiki.commonjs.org CNAMEs for something Dan controls, in case he needs to juggle servers again
[16:15] <zumbrunn> wiki.commonjs.org is a CNAME
[16:15] <zumbrunn> commonjs.org can't be a CNAME, really
[16:16] <zumbrunn> records without a hostname, are supposed to be A records
[16:16] <Wes--> Oh, right, minor detail
[16:16] * Wes-- wishes he could time travel and fix a few bugs in DNS :)
[16:17] <Dantman> Is there actually any dns records besides the ones pointing to my server?
[16:17] <zumbrunn> I could make that commonjs.org redirects to www.commonjs.org
[16:17] <zumbrunn> yes, the irc logs
[16:18] <zumbrunn> don't remember what else
[16:22] <Dantman> @_@ 0.36gb outgoing bandwidth already...
[16:22] <Dantman> Ack, no, incoming
[16:22] <Dantman> Hmmmm.... nah, that can't be traffic... probably the data transfer
[16:23] <Wes--> Dantman: I spidered you
[16:25] <Dantman> ^_^ Oh, btw, when I transferred the site to the new server... I also added an extra line to the /etc/hosts on the new server... From the server's point of view wiki.commonjs.org is now 127.0.0.1 ;) So it's fetching things locally now.
[16:26] <Wes--> Dantman: You should actually be able to fetch smarter-ly than that with mod_proxy + mod_rewrite
[16:26] <Wes--> (not that it's really important)
[16:27] <Dantman> hmmm?
[16:30] <Dantman> Damnit, rscloud's web console is messed up in chrome
[16:30] <Dantman> want, lish!
[16:34] <zumbrunn> so, are you setting up a rscloud instance for commonjs.org now?
[16:41] <Dantman> I did that yesterday, the wiki and website are already running on there
[16:42] <zumbrunn> ah, ok
[16:42] <Dantman> I'm just trying to get into the server so I can change the care of redwerks since it's no longer on a redwerks server
[16:42] <zumbrunn> thought that was on a machine you already had before
[16:42] <Dantman> voltaire is the dev server at work
[16:42] <zumbrunn> yep, I know
[16:43] <Dantman> tama and kama are two existing rs instances I have... and I just setup kyou for commonjs, and it'll eventually run other wiki of mine as well
[16:43] <zumbrunn> I still think a dedicated instance for commonjs.org would be good to have
[16:44] <zumbrunn> so that several people can have admin access
[16:44] <zumbrunn> and it can serve as the master for the dns as well
[16:45] <Dantman> tama runs my master dns which I'll eventually switch to once I get a good slave host, dns ui, svn and viewvc, and I'm also testing out how much bandwidth an irc bot will take up
[16:45] <Dantman> kama was setup for another revival of me fooling arround trying to build a good mediawiki hosting setup
[16:48] <zumbrunn> again, a dedicated instance for commonjs would be better, in my opinion
[16:48] <Dantman> *cough* Which, btw, I was considering moving commonjs to if I ever got working
[16:50] <Dantman> T_T I need a new laptop
[17:00] <zumbrunn> Dantman: btw, what happened to the commonjs.org home and impl pages?
[17:00] <zumbrunn> they have gone blank since this morning
[17:00] <zumbrunn> is that intentional
[17:00] <Dantman> O_o
[17:01] <zumbrunn> "blank" meaning their content is gone
[17:01] <Dantman> Great
[17:01] <zumbrunn> oh, the spec one as well now
[17:02] <Wes--> Dantman: zumbrunn: Actually, the commonjs.org root page is gone as well - what you see is just a funny 404 page
[17:04] <zumbrunn> a pretty one :-)
[17:04] <Wes--> Pretty, yes, functional, no
[17:04] <Wes--> It should say "404" somewhere on it IMHO :)
[17:04] <Dantman> Aaaaaaahhhhhhh.... so many issues showing up simultaniously
[17:05] <Wes--> Dantman: Relax, we get it - if you want to divide an conquer, I can probably fix commonjs.org this afternoon if you can give me access
[17:06] <Wes--> But, FWIW - this where my comments on the mailing list come to life -- hosting isn't really the problem, it's staffing, and it's hard to find good help for free. So do your best but don't let it stress you out.
[17:06] <Wes--> And ask for help when you can use it!
[17:07] <zumbrunn> Amen
[17:08] <Dantman> Wanna fix me up an icon while I fix bugs?
[17:08] <zumbrunn> an icon?
[17:08] <zumbrunn> a favicon?
[17:09] <Dantman> A replacement for the care of redwerks icon
[17:09] <zumbrunn> oh
[17:14] <Dantman> Ack, I think I know what the bug is before I even check
[17:15] <Dantman> *sigh*, yup
[17:22] <Dantman> *sigh*... Remember that harmless annoying little warning that showed up at the top of every page....... it became a syntax error in the json the api outputted and the commonjs.org php consumed
[17:28] <Wes--> dantman: What do you want the icon to say?
[17:29] <Dantman> Care of\Daniel Friesen or shorten Friesen to F if it's to long... trick is laying it over the same bg and getting the text right
[17:37] <Wes--> dantman: know off hand what font that is?
[17:37] <Dantman> No... I think I scanned through till I found something similar...
[17:37] <Wes--> dantman: Also, do you know the msn for the person on the redwerks front page?
[17:37] <Dantman> Lol, I think that's a stock image
[17:37] <Dantman> Try the standard Times New Roman, Arial, etc...
[17:38] <Dantman> I think the font was one of them
[17:50] <dmachi> Wes-, Dantman having done the same thing for all of the dojofoundation projects for 6 years now, i can sympathize and emphatically promote making sure its not just one person back there doing all the work.
[17:51] <Wes--> dantman: FWIW - looks like it's Carbernet, a commericial font -- looking for a good alternative now
[17:53] <Wes--> http://origin.myfonts.net/114/fs/u/11/a8881c99ef31e454ed87f266789e78.gif
[17:54] * Dantman doesn't remember using such a font
[17:54] <Dantman> Hmm... maybe it was one of the Monospace fonts... Courier?
[17:55] <Dantman> But you know..... That image is using a random font "I" used when creating the image... That icon is actually badly based on MediaWiki's own Powered by icon, that's the one you should compare a font to.
[17:55] <Wes--> Dantman: Hey, good idea!
[17:57] <Dantman> Unfortunately, I can't find any .xcf's leftover after one of the times that I manually cleaned up the powered by's background image
[17:59] <Dantman> Heh, it's a little disappointing that the major project at work isn't one that the people I know would take a strong interest in wanting to use...
[18:01] <Dantman> On another note.... T_T My code,... It's not supposed to do that... I have another bug to fix.
[18:19] <Wes--> Dantman: http://www.page.ca/~wes/df/icon1.png
[18:20] * Dantman facepalms
[18:20] * Wes-- roflhaos
[18:20] <Dantman> Maybe my use of the Animanga mascot gave the wrong idea
[18:21] <Dantman> My favicon would work better than the Animanga mascot. http://daniel.friesen.name/favicon.ico
[18:22] * Dantman needs to get his own logo or something eventually
[18:24] * Dantman could go for a silhouette of a closed umbrella diagonally, handle top-left, tip bottom-right, with a rounded box around it.....
[18:28] <Wes--> Dantman: http://www.page.ca/~wes/df/icon2.png
[18:28] <Wes--> At least it matches your favicon :)
[18:28] <Dantman> Heh, I know... Logo is something that'll take time to find someone to do.
[18:36] <Wes--> Dantman: http://www.page.ca/~wes/df/icon3.png
[18:38] <Wes--> Dantman: Have you ever searched for "dan friesen" on youtube?
[18:39] <Dantman> Not on youtube
[18:39] <Dantman> And my google rank favours daniel more than dan
[18:40] <Wes--> When you search "daniel friesen" on google, it finds the youtube result for penis monologue
[18:40] <Wes--> I think I'm going to click it a lot, make it really relevent :p

 

 

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