[01:03am]<JohnnyL> Merry Shrismas! [04:58am]<kroo_foods is now known as appl. [04:58am]<appl is now known as kroo_. [7:06pm]<Edgar1> Im a web developer and i have find a little job...it consist in using joomla mostly as administrator and developer, Im learning how to use it. [7:07pm]<Edgar1> what do you think about joomla and CMS? useful or useless? [7:11pm]<ashb> what's joomla? [7:11pm]<Edgar1> its a content manangement software [7:12pm]<Edgar1> something like drupal [7:12pm]<ashb> got anything to do with JS? [7:12pm]<Edgar1> well, let says that yes [7:12pm]<ashb> CMSs can be useful in general [7:12pm]<ashb> it depends exactly what oyu need them for and how much of that htey do already (inc with plugins) and if not how easy they are to extend [7:13pm]<MisterN> i suppose that ashb knows what joomla is, and just wants to point out that it is not very related to commonjs [7:13pm]<ashb> didn't actually - had to google it [7:13pm]<MisterN> hmm [7:13pm]<Edgar1> MisterN well a lot of modules in Joomla runs Javascript [7:13pm]<Edgar1> so it may be some relation [7:13pm]<ashb> client side JS tho i'm guessing? [7:13pm]<MisterN> ashb> surprises me. even i have heard of joomla, and i'm a c++ guy [7:13pm]<ashb> i dont do CMS generally [7:13pm]<Edgar1> ashb yes [7:15pm]<MisterN> ashb> yeah sure, i haven't used it either.. but you know, there's this expectation that people know about some stuff even if they don't use it [7:15pm]<ashb> i like to ignore things [7:15pm]<ashb> Edgar1> what was your question anyway? [7:16pm]<Edgar1> i just want some opinions [7:16pm]<ashb> ah cant help them [7:16pm]<Edgar1> hehe [7:16pm]<MisterN> Edgar1> maybe try #joomla or #php ? [7:17pm]<Edgar1> well, they will give me some reasons for go and use joomla, but i want opinions [7:17pm]<Edgar1> even if are critics [7:18pm]<ashb> then try #durpal [7:18pm]<evilstreak> I would wager most people in this channel have never tried joomla [7:18pm]<ashb> aks they other side for why theirs is better [7:18pm]<MisterN> also ask the joomla guys why drupal is worse than joomla [7:18pm]<evilstreak> I'm a pointlessly-roll-your-own-cms kinda guy personally [7:18pm]<MisterN> evilstreak> that's just perfect, because then you can do it with juice. [7:18pm]<evilstreak> [7:18pm]<evilstreak> working on it [7:19pm]<evilstreak> soon we'll have markdown good enough to use [7:19pm]<Edgar1> [7:19pm]<ashb> i have specific demands for 'good enough' [7:19pm]<ashb> specifically that is easy enough to extend for new dialects without having to re-write everything [7:20pm]<ashb> and that produces well-formed hmtl out [7:20pm]<ashb> and that gives you a (markdown) tree you can munge/cache [7:20pm]<MisterN> ashb> woah crazy demand. next time you'll ask for functions that aren't named $Fcta [7:20pm]<ashb> i know! how will the world cope